Rebecca Wisocky on Why Hetty Might Be the Ghost You Shouldn’t Underestimate

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Over four seasons, Rebecca Wisocky has made Ghosts’ Lady of the House, Hetty Woodstone, one of the most simultaneously silly and dramatic characters on television. From helping her great great great niece with dicey business advice from beyond the grave to hooking up with the house’s resident pantless frat bro, we’ve seen Hetty gain a new lease on life 130 years after she died. Now in Season 4, we’ve seen her running the rumor mill with Sasappis (Román Zaragoza), comforting Trevor (Asher Grodman) over the loss of his dog, and begging Jay (Utkarsh Ambudkar) to bring her cocaine when he eventually dies. As the show prepares to make its return this week, we can expect to see Hetty learning a major revelation about her lineage, and at some point in the upcoming episodes, we’ll see her face off with her evil ex-husband, Elias (Matt Walsh), and finally discover her ghost power.

Over the winter hiatus, I sat down with Wisocky to discuss all things Hetty and what we can expect from the rest of Season 4. During our conversation we spoke about the clever reveal of Hetty’s powers, what to expect from the return of Elias and Rose McIver’s directorial debut, and what Hetty’s TikTok FYP might look like. She also mentioned her personal gratification that so many fans have become H-Money (Hetty/Trevor) shippers and her excitement for fans to see some of the unexpected twists in Hetty’s story. Touching on topics like grief and gratitude, we also discussed the incredible writing behind Ghosts and the immense talent of her co-stars. Wisocky’s recent guest role on The Sex Lives of College Girls and the fantastic crossover campaign between Survivor and Ghosts (which you can read about here) also came up in conversation. You can read the transcript for our chat below.

We Will Finally Learn Hetty’s Power in ‘Ghosts’ Season 4

“That was fun for us to play.”

I know that you’ve recently said that we’ll get to see what Hetty’s power is this season. Why do you think it’s been so elusive for her all these years, and how does that mystery shape her trajectory this season?

WISOCKY: I thought it was wonderful that the character that is so preoccupied with status was the one that believed that she might not actually have a power at all. That was fun for us to play and fun for the other ghosts to get to mock her and chide her about that. Our showrunners, Joe Port and Joe Wiseman, have been really smart with the way they’ve just kind of slowly revealed these big pivotal secrets in these characters’ moments, like their death stories and their powers. So there’s one left after we reveal Hetty’s power. I think there’s only one left that we need to find out — Sasappis’ death. But I think it’s a good way to keep some of those mysteries alive and those options open for them in terms of different plotlines they want to pursue.

Very exciting! We know that Elias is coming back because you guys posted some very cute sneak peeks when Matt was there filming. Can you tease anything about that episode?

WISOCKY: Yes, Matt Walsh. I don’t know if I can tease anything so specific. I’ll just say that someone needs to figure out how to put a lock on the gates to hell because he comes back entirely too often. [That’s Hetty’s opinion.] My opinion is that I’m delighted when he comes back because he’s so much fun and he’s so funny and game and talented, so we had a blast with him. I think people will be surprised that he’s got more tricks up his sleeve.

I believe at Comic-Con, you told Perri that we would get to see Hetty helping Sam out with the B&B a bit while Jay is busy with the restaurant. We got a taste of that recently with the Farnsbys. What can you say about Hetty’s relationship with Sam in the back half of Season 4?

WISOCKY: Well, I love Rose McIver. I think she’s a wonderful, generous leader. She got to direct an episode this season, and she just crushed it. She did an amazing job. It’s going to be such a good episode. I love that dynamic. I think, in some ways, that familial relationship is one of the backbones of the show. They both have had difficult relationships with their own mothers/children: Sam with her mother and, of course, Hetty with her son and her own mother. They have a lot to work out through one another. So, of course, we’re going to open the restaurant this season, and the success or failure of the restaurant and the time that it takes Jay away from the B&B, I think will leave Sam possibly with Hetty’s help figuring out the future success of the B&B.

H-Money Fans Have Some “Surprising Twists” To Look Forward to in ‘Ghosts’ Season 4

“I’m very happy that the fans are invested in seeing more of them together.”

So Hetty and Trevor, or H-Money, as they’ve been affectionately dubbed by the internet, I’m obsessed with their delicious, complicated relationship. It’s been really fun to pick up on the crumbs, like his reaction to her dress and her reaction to him maybe getting sucked off. What does the future of that relationship look like to you?

WISOCKY: First of all, I’m so happy, and I feel personally gratified that there are so many H-Money/Tretty shippers out there who are so invested in their relationship. And yeah, they really do read between the lines with every little look that we give one another or how close we’re standing next to one another. Asher Grodman and I have had so much fun talking about the relationship and where it can go. Both of us enjoy the parts of it that are about competition and conniving a plot. They’re so very different, and yet they’re so similar as creatures. So, I’m very happy that the fans are invested in seeing more of them together, and they will not be disappointed this season, I’ll say that. There are some surprising twists for H-Money this year.

I love when they’re scheming, whether together or against each other. It’s great. I’m also always an advocate for more flashbacks on the show.

WISOCKY: Me too!

I really loved Thor and Sass’ first meeting for Christmas, so I was wondering, what are some flashbacks that you would like to see not just in Hetty’s life but in her death and friendship with these other ghosts over, like, 150 years?

WISOCKY: I’ve said it before, this show has thousands of years of history to play with. I mean, it’s such a remarkable, unique strength that the writers have that they can go to so many different places. Our production design team, led by Zoë Sakellaropoulo, and our costume design team, led by Carmen Alie, are so gifted and have such attention to historical specificity and detail that the flashbacks are just so incredibly juicy and so fun for us as characters that normally have to be in the same outfit every day for us to play. When we get to be alive, we get to actually touch props, and so I very much love the flashbacks.

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